I can’t walk the fine legal line of allowing people to say they want an entire group to be killed.

I’m not a lawyer so I don’t know exactly what is legal or not when someone says a group should be killed. So i’m gonna remove stuff like that. It’s not worth it to me.

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Straight up illegal stuff needs to be a hard line. Isn’t like we aren’t on fediverse so genocidalists can make ilovegenocise.com

Masterofballs
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true. I’ll gladly help them set up their own instance so they don’t fill mine up with death threats.

@iamtanmay
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Absolutely bro. Its not right to make the owner of the site liable for possibly expensive legal trouble.

@squashkin
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not a lawyer either but at the end of ruqqus they were commenting that illegal speech on this topic must have the characteristics of the brandenberg case: https://infogalactic.com/info/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

The Court held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is directed to inciting, and is likely to incite, imminent lawless action.

So it sounds like there needs to be a specific threat announced, like a person will harm a specific person or group in a specific place at a specific time.

So it sounds like it is legal to say a person wishes a person or group would die. It sounds like it is not ok to say they are going to attack a specific person or place on a specific date with a specific weapon.

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I don’t have the legal funds to defend lawsuits like that. And I don’t know how to draw that line exactly. Who defines what counts as a time and place? It’s much easier to just say I will delete anyone saying " A group should be killed". They could easily rephrase that as “I wish that group were not here” .

If someone wants to donate a layer and legal fees I can maybe push that line further.

@squashkin
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that’s fine, was just adding what I thought I understood things to be

just make sure people are aware of the rules and update them if needed, I thought you already said basically to avoid violent speech because it can be hard to know where the line is

@iamtanmay
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How will you manage to enforce this when the userbase is too big for you to read everything ? Automated bots can be worked around.

Platforms like Aether where messages disappear after time, are legally immune from this.

Wish the laws were better and responsibility was on who makes the statement rather than the platform

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All I have to do in America is make an effort to remove illegal content to be protected as far as I am aware. It does not have to be immediate and generally user reports will help.

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Masterofballs
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I’m not running a 100% censorship free platform, i’m running a platform that is designed to make censorship harder. if you have 12% a month and 15$ a year I will show you how to run your own instance and you can make your own rules. I can’t take the risk to host content like that. To many feds posting shit

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@henry_james
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race mixing is killing people

If someone doesn’t want to have sex with you, it’s not really genocide against you. Toughen up, pussy.

@iamtanmay
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lol, what a response

Masterofballs
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You can say retarded shit like that because its protected speech. As long as its not calling action to harm a group. That can get the site taken down.

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