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religious nationalism is another option, I don’t think it’s the same as civic nationalism per se

We want a nation by Christian principles

But yeah this forum seems more civnat than ethnat.

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do you think women were held accountable in the past? Was it like the 1960s when it stopped, or earlier?

definitely didn’t used to be like this. but there are also stories of men being falsely accused like in the Bible so it may be an ancient problem

also I don’t know the timeline on things, but there used to be more ethnic churches with Catholics. Orthodox are still organized somewhat ethnically I think. Protestants idk, not as much?

anyway in the past it doesn’t seem like it was really even a question, a lot of the ethnicities just stayed separate, but there was also overlap but it was a minority of the population so didn’t pose a question to the stability of these ethnicities. today things seem very different.

I see more mixed couples out in public. I think whites having a kind of “dominance” (being majority, etc.) might lead to race mixing to even it all out, as the white men or women feel held to a higher standard when dating each other and can escape that higher standard by just dating another race. idk what incentives would override this for a lot of people.

> white guy rejected by lots of white women just dates eager non-white. white woman not willing to be held to any standard just dates non-white man as white women are racially ranked higher in attractiveness on certain preference polls and so non-white men are often eager to date them.

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so I am kind of “conservatarian”

the problem with respect to women is we have neither a libertarian government towards them, nor traditional conservativism

if there was basically a free market, women would not be able to compete against men, so men would naturally rise up above them in the market in general. This does exist today to some extent but it’s being attacked. Marriage “contracts” would thus respect the property men work for, rather than the wacky divorce court law arrangements that exist today. So feminism wouldn’t be the same kind of problem.

or if we had a conservative government, the women would be excluded from certain positions of authority by force or principle. The Christian view is that wives are to be submissive to husbands and to obey them (Ephesians 5:22). So the men naturally are in charge under this view of government, which is an extension of the view of the family.

we have neither of these really. the civnats are basically feminist and treat women as equals using their political authority. And we don’t have the free market ability to “discriminate” against women with arguably unConstitutional laws like the Civil Rights Act. However we do still have the ability to freely associate with men and exclude women from private small businesses and organizations in practice (for example, the amish still exist and seem to enforce norms like this). And we don’t have to vote for women if there are suitable male alternative candidates - things like this. So not all hope is lost. But there are constraints to work with.

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